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Vigilante-Smith
registered: 7/18/2004 00:00
posts: 115
R.I.P
THE POPE HAS NOW DIED AGE 84

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope John Paul II has died, the Vatican has announced.

The 84-year-old Pontiff, who had headed the Roman Catholic Church for 26 years, died at 9.37 p.m (8.37 p.m. British time), a statement said on Saturday.

"The Holy Father died this evening at 21.37 in his private apartment," the statement said.

The news was immediately announced to huge crowds gathered in St Peter's Square.

John Paul will be remembered for his role in the collapse of communism in Europe and his unyielding defence of traditional Vatican doctrines as leader of the world's 1.1 billion Catholics.

Huge crowds had staged a tearful vigil in St. Peter's Square, praying for a man already being dubbed by some Catholics as "John Paul the Great".

The Pope's health had deteriorated steadily over the past decade and earlier this year took a sharp turn for the worse.

The Pontiff, once a lithe athlete and powerful speaker, was already racked by arthritis and Parkinson's Disease, his voice often reduced to a raspy whisper.

He was rushed to hospital twice in February and had to have a tracheotomy to ease serious breathing problems. But he never regained his strength from the operation and failed dramatically on two occasions to address crowds at St. Peter's Square.

On Wednesday doctors inserted a feeding tube into his stomach to try boost his energy levels. A day later he developed a urinary infection and high fever that soon precipitated heart failure, kidney problems and ultimately death.

According to pre-written Church rules, the Pontiff's mourning rites will last 9 days and his body is likely to be laid to rest in the crypt underneath St Peter's Basilica.

The conclave to elect a new Pope will start in 15 to 20 days, with almost 120 cardinals from around the world gathering in the Vatican's Sistine Chapel to choose a successor.

There is no favourite candidate to take over. Karol Wojtyla was himself regarded as an outsider when he was elevated to the papacy on October 16, 1978.

Few would have predicted then that the first non-Italian Pope in 455 years would throw off the stiff trappings of the papacy, travel the globe and leave an indelible mark on history.

In over a quarter century on the world stage, he was both a champion of the downtrodden and an often contested defender of orthodoxy within his own church.

Historians say one of the Pope's most lasting legacies will be his role in the fall of communism in Eastern Europe in 1989.

"Behold the night is over, day has dawned anew," the Pope said during a triumphant visit to Czechoslovakia in 1990.

A decade after witnessing the fall of communism, he fulfilled another of his dreams. He visited the Holy Land in March 2000, and, praying at Jerusalem's Western Wall, asked forgiveness for Catholic sins against Jews over the centuries.

But while many loved the man, his message was less popular and he was a source of deep division in his own church.

Critics constantly attacked his traditionalist stance on family issues, such as his condemnation of contraception and homosexuality, and hope the next Pope will be more liberal.

However, he has appointed more than 95 percent of the cardinals who will elect his successor, thus stacking the odds that his controversial teachings will not be tampered with.


THANKS FOR THE NEWS MSN
R.I.P POPE JOHN PAUL THE 2ND
posted: 4/2/2005 13:41Reply | PM | Edit | IP
NYC rock n roll
registered: 1/28/2005 00:00
posts: 35
......
So sad :(

He's in Heaven now.. :)
posted: 4/2/2005 13:48Reply | PM | Edit | IP
DiabolicDebbie
registered: 2/2/2005 00:00
posts: 284
 :(....
at least he doesn't havent to suffer anymore.

R.I.P.!!!!!
posted: 4/2/2005 13:50Reply | PM | Edit | IP
HawleyLover
registered: 2/5/2005 00:00
posts: 625
how do you know
hes in heaven?
posted: 4/2/2005 14:12Reply | PM | Edit | IP
In Love With HPA
registered: 1/9/2005 00:00
posts: 810
 
I know! I read about it a little bit ago...that's sad. But I agree, now he won't have to suffer anymore. He wasn't in the best of health.

~*::R.I.P. Pope John Paul II::*~
posted: 4/2/2005 14:17Reply | PM | Edit | IP
pephanie
registered: 8/2/2004 00:00
posts: 67
uggh
they dont KNOW hes in heaven
its just what they believe
gosh...
posted: 4/2/2005 14:21Reply | PM | Edit | IP
HawleyLover
registered: 2/5/2005 00:00
posts: 628
okeedokee
well i believe he is in hell
posted: 4/2/2005 14:22Reply | PM | Edit | IP
NesterVox22
registered: 12/27/2004 00:00
posts: 411
yo guys
let's not fight about someone's afterlife after their death, it's rude. many catholics are murning now, and this is a sad event.
posted: 4/2/2005 15:03Reply | PM | Edit | IP
HawleyLover
registered: 2/5/2005 00:00
posts: 629
i am catolic
ick....i have to altar serve tomorow...
posted: 4/2/2005 15:18Reply | PM | Edit | IP
PunkrockPelle
registered: 9/6/2004 00:00
posts: 618
my mother...
told me over the phone that he was okay. god damn her... i swear, she loves to lie to me about everything...
posted: 4/2/2005 15:20Reply | PM | Edit | IP
hivesfan15
registered: 3/20/2005 00:00
posts: 15
poor guy
its so sad to see sum 1 that nice parrish
posted: 4/2/2005 15:22Reply | PM | Edit | IP
Rocker Geek
registered: 2/26/2004 00:00
posts: 1
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I'm really sad. I almost cried when I found out.

RIP Pope
posted: 4/2/2005 17:05Reply | PM | Edit | IP
bloodymary13
registered: 7/21/2004 00:00
posts: 1618
*sniff*
yeah i heard about that...its really sad,he was an important person...not just to roman catholics but to mostly everyone...

he lived a long life,and like someone said before,he was very sick and now he doesnt have to suffer.

R.I.P mr.pope
posted: 4/2/2005 17:49Reply | PM | Edit | IP
HeatherlovesTheHives
registered: 2/8/2005 00:00
posts: 1171
I am Catholic
and i dont like to discuss religion, but i do believe in atleast respecting other peoples religion, this man was a great leader not only to Catholics, but in foriegn relations and respected other religions as well
posted: 4/2/2005 18:38Reply | PM | Edit | IP
RockTheCasbah
registered: 7/31/2004 00:00
posts: 166
Ya know what I'd like to see?
Howlin' Pope Almqvist...are ya with me? can I get an amen?
posted: 4/2/2005 18:56Reply | PM | Edit | IP
Compliquez
registered: 7/21/2004 00:00
posts: 2209
...
Doesn't post, even though really wants, because does not want to offend anyone.... gaaaaaaah.
posted: 4/2/2005 19:49Reply | PM | Edit | IP
shinee123
registered: 10/9/2004 00:00
posts: 2667
hmmm
you know wat would suk......you know how the pope is christian and everything? well it would suk if he didnt go to heaven (wich hopefully he did).........i kinda have no idea wat im saying cuz i dont know wat my religion is or watever.....so yeah...but woyuldnt that kinda really suk....
posted: 4/2/2005 22:17Reply | PM | Edit | IP
17 minutes
registered: 5/30/2004 00:00
posts: 397
...
Am I the only one who thinks it was about time he passed away? I mean, for the last few years the only thing he's done is to sit in his throne beeing half-dead.

I'm not religious in any way, but my impression of the pope is that he was a very bitter and way too traditional and old fashion dude.
posted: 4/3/2005 06:13Reply | PM | Edit | IP
I'm a Wicked One
registered: 8/30/2004 00:00
posts: 607
well,
To me he was just an old guy who's probably in a better place now, considered his health the last period of his life. But I'm atheist so thats why i dont care that much.. let him rest in peace :) and, fuck* you hawlylover
posted: 4/3/2005 06:18Reply | PM | Edit | IP
I'm a Wicked One
registered: 8/30/2004 00:00
posts: 608
yeah,
17 minutes, I agree
posted: 4/3/2005 06:19Reply | PM | Edit | IP
NesterVox22
registered: 12/27/2004 00:00
posts: 418
yeah
but even when he was "half-dead" he told Bush not to start another war
posted: 4/3/2005 07:06Reply | PM | Edit | IP
HawleyLover
registered: 2/5/2005 00:00
posts: 637
I'm a wicked one
phuck you

why do you guys care so much? he died now move on-im sure that if like pelle or nic or vig or chris or matt died then noone would care as much butill probly cry(they will go to heaven)-sorry-i just dont feel the same way about the pope as yall do
posted: 4/3/2005 08:02Reply | PM | Edit | IP
Compliquez
registered: 7/21/2004 00:00
posts: 2210
...
Hawleylover, why would you even say "The Pope will go to hell."? Do you have any reasoning, or do you just want to piss* people off?

(By the way, I'm an athiest, so I believe the Pope is just plain dead.)
posted: 4/3/2005 08:11Reply | PM | Edit | IP
HawleyLover
registered: 2/5/2005 00:00
posts: 638
im sorry-im stupid but what is an athiest?
im not trying to make people mad thats just what i believe

do you have any proof hes going to heaven? are you just trying to make eveyrone feel better
posted: 4/3/2005 08:31Reply | PM | Edit | IP
HeatherlovesTheHives
registered: 2/8/2005 00:00
posts: 1175
all i know is that
i have my beliefs for my reasons (a devout Catholic), i am not attacking anyone elses beliefs or non beliefs. because i am a decent humane being, and i would ask you all to do the same, no one knows what happens once a person has passed, and that is not up to us to decide, i would just ask that you people have some respect and let us who are in mourning to be able to come here and be comfortable, because if you guys please dont stop this, i may not come back,.............ever. I can still be a hardcore fan and not be on these boards, so please have some respect and dont diss eachothers beliefs or non beliefs


an atheist is a person who doesnt believe in a higher power or heaven
posted: 4/3/2005 08:54Reply | PM | Edit | IP
HeatherlovesTheHives
registered: 2/8/2005 00:00
posts: 1177
does
no one agree?
posted: 4/3/2005 09:03Reply | PM | Edit | IP
17 minutes
registered: 5/30/2004 00:00
posts: 398
A question
Didn't the pope claim that condoms are infected by the HIV-virus? All sane people, hopefully, knows that's not true, which means that he lied. Isn't that something that goes against the catholic belief?

I find it hard to understand how so many people in a modern society could look up to and listen to a person like the pope.
posted: 4/3/2005 09:23Reply | PM | Edit | IP
HawleyLover
registered: 2/5/2005 00:00
posts: 640
i dont
use condoms.......
posted: 4/3/2005 09:45Reply | PM | Edit | IP
HeatherlovesTheHives
registered: 2/8/2005 00:00
posts: 1178
and still
you miss my point, us devout Catholics are in mourning and you continue to be juvinile and disrespect this man while he is gone, like i said i may not be returning if this continues



posted: 4/3/2005 10:11Reply | PM | Edit | IP
HeatherlovesTheHives
registered: 2/8/2005 00:00
posts: 1180
i can understand
that many of you dont believe, and you have that right, i just get a little defensive about my beliefs, because it is my faith that is keeping me alive, i would have done myself in along time ago if it werent for my religion, so please if you have something to say, think about that, think before you post, if you think it might offend someone please use good judgement and dont post it for everyone to see, instead pm someone that shares you views, it just breaks my heart to see so many people being disrespectful towrds my religion
posted: 4/3/2005 10:21Reply | PM | Edit | IP
videel
registered: 12/7/2004 00:00
posts: 196
Poland
Poland is immersed in deep sadness. We have lost great compatriot. Streets are full, however, sad calm lasts. Bells call in churches. People are crying. I'm crying too..

p.s People who are saying about him bad things, are mean and stupid.
p.s2 sorry for my english...

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posted: 4/3/2005 11:18Reply | PM | Edit | IP
RockTheCasbah
registered: 7/31/2004 00:00
posts: 169
Be offended you pussies
First of all, this is a Hives forum and no one asked to talk about the pope except you religious people. I tried to bring it back to the Hives a few posts ago and it went nowhere, instead Hawley just said he thought the pope was in hell, and all The Hives would make it into heaven. Now, Hawley, surely you jest. What sort of standard could you possibly uphold for that to be even a remote likelihood? I don't care if anyone here is offended when you say it, but really if you truly feel that way then say WHY. And do remember, the pope did a lot of great things for people of all faiths (and atheists too!). And of course he's a traditionalist, how can you dislike someone for that? He wasn't oppressing anybody and forcing anyone to abide by a code, so don't bag on the pope just because he was a traditionalist. I mean, duh.
posted: 4/3/2005 12:27Reply | PM | Edit | IP
HawleyLover
registered: 2/5/2005 00:00
posts: 648
i just find it really funny
that we are all getting into this huge conversation and fight about the pope-heeheehee

and do you think that the hives wont go to heaven????????? thta better not be what you said...
posted: 4/3/2005 12:36Reply | PM | Edit | IP
I'm a Wicked One
registered: 8/30/2004 00:00
posts: 615
some people are so dumb here..
but lets stop with this subject? because this is supposed to be a peacefull place hehe
posted: 4/3/2005 12:38Reply | PM | Edit | IP
Compliquez
registered: 7/21/2004 00:00
posts: 2211
Hawley lover.
An Athiest is someone who doesn't believe in any religion, and believes there is no higher being.

And I don't have proof he is going to heaven (which I don't believe in anyway), but why not make people happy by saying it? Telling people the pope is going to hell is a very childish thing to do, since you know you are doing it just to create trouble.
posted: 4/3/2005 12:42Reply | PM | Edit | IP
HawleyLover
registered: 2/5/2005 00:00
posts: 652
noooo
im not just making trouble-im sharing the thought that is in my head with all of you lovely kids
posted: 4/3/2005 12:47Reply | PM | Edit | IP
I'm a Wicked One
registered: 8/30/2004 00:00
posts: 617
yeah
that wasnt very nice of you to say.. me saying fuck* you wasnt either.. sorry for that..
posted: 4/3/2005 12:50Reply | PM | Edit | IP
HawleyLover
registered: 2/5/2005 00:00
posts: 654
 its ok
cuz i was childish and did it back
posted: 4/3/2005 12:52Reply | PM | Edit | IP
I'm a Wicked One
registered: 8/30/2004 00:00
posts: 619
..ok
good we've solved it
posted: 4/3/2005 12:54Reply | PM | Edit | IP
Vigilante-Smith
registered: 7/18/2004 00:00
posts: 118
mjkk
he was against gay and bi people but i still repect him
posted: 4/5/2005 13:10Reply | PM | Edit | IP

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